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As I was having those big conversations a couple weeks ago, the thing that led me to say, “Okay, maybe I need to be the one to foster this, or at least try,” was that many, many, MANY people commented or messaged specifically to thank me for the way I was engaging and hence modeling for others how to engage. Hundreds of people told me that this thing I was doing was unusual…and necessary, and needed.
I don’t have a communication degree. But what I do have is training in classical conversation. The first things we were taught at St. John’s College were “how to ask a question” and “how to talk about the answers with people not like you.” There were ground rules, rules which allowed people from the most diverse backgrounds to engage on a topic without devolving into name-calling or falling into sheer chaos.
And the more I’m out in the world away from St. John’s, the more I realize these things are not taught to everyone. But that doesn’t mean we can’t still learn them. =)
In those social media conversations, I quickly fell into a pattern in my responses, and that pattern served me well. More, it was easily distillable. And also easily picked up on. I noticed others in the comment section very quickly mirroring the pattern, and when they did, hostilities cooled. Conversations stayed rational and heartfelt. There was no bullying inĀ thoseĀ threads. And something that greatly flattered me was that when I saw things they were posting that day or in the ones to follow, they kept that same approach.
Because it works. It’s not that it’s ground-breaking. It’s just that it was a very simple thing we don’t always think to do.
As I was thinking about the rules of engagement and moderation for the Common Room, writer-me couldn’t resist coming up with some alliteration for the ideas I’d been using. And I think they’re pretty useful guides for any time we find ourselves in a conversation with someone who isn’t 100% like us. (So, you know…most of them.) So here you have them. My 4 Gs of real conversation.
No one is on the same journey. And even when we are, we’re not in the same place on it. I can remember when I didn’t think the way I think now, when I hadn’t had come to conclusions I’ve since come to. Which is to say,Ā I’ve been wrong about things before.
I bet you have too.
And here’s the thing–that’s okay. Just like we need to offer ourselves grace for not knowingĀ then what we knowĀ now, so too do we need to offer grace for wherever other people are. Even when we don’t get how they could not see something. Even when they should know better.
And there’s more to it even than that–we shouldn’t assume bad motives. We shouldn’t assumeĀ anything. We don’t know, when someone simply states their opinion as fact, what led them to that. We don’t know the hurts they’ve gone through. And we don’t know what they’re going through right now.
When people send me a huffing note about something I forgot to do and I say, “Oh, I’m so sorry, I was getting a chemo infusion when your email came in, and it slipped my mind,” I am absolutely asking,Ā Will you give me a little grace? And in that situation, they do, because it’s so OBVIOUS, right?
But here’s the thing. The less obvious is no less deserving. We are all desperate for grace. I know I am…and so, I will offer to you what I hope to receive from you. And in every conversation, we should do the same.
Assuming the best about people. When you start there, you’ll naturally avoid a lot of potholes in your conversation.
Sharing your heart in a climate of attack takes courage. Even weighing into a conversation with vitriol indicates a passion for a subject. As an author, I deal with complaint mail (I won’t call it “hate mail,” because it isn’t hate, but I certainly have my fair share of people who “felt compelled to write to let you know that I didn’t like your last book”), so I’ve had some practice in how to reply. And it all stems from Dale Carnegie’s advice inĀ How to Win Friends and Influence People. And that is this: thank them.
Thank them for the time they took to write to you or to comment or for showing up to a verbal conversation. Thank them for caring so much that they’d speak. Thank them for being honest and vulnerable. Thank them for hearing you out.
When we thank someone, we are immediately saying, “I recognize that you’re a person, and that you have something to contribute.” Our emotional, knee-jerk reaction to what they say should be irrelevant when it comes to that fact. Thank them–and mean it. Train yourself to take a step back and recognize what’s at stake for the other person. Once in a while, someone’s just a jerk who enjoys making people mad. But most of the time, that’s not what’s driving someone.
And once you thank someone (genuinely), you’ll see an immediate shift. Because when we’re (genuinely) thanked for something, we shift immediately out of offensive mode. We think,Ā Oh, they hear me. They appreciate me. They recognize my heart. And suddenly they’re ready to recognize yours too.Ā
This is so simple–and so profound. And so incredibly important.
Now, obviously if you’re involved in a long conversation, you’re not going to startĀ every response with “Thank you for sharing that with me.” But itĀ is important to recognize when someone takes a risk in opening up and recognize that. To be trusted with someone’s heart is a precious thing. Don’t squander it.
As per my post “A Soft Answer,” it turns out Solomon was onto something (Proverbs 15:1). A soft answer really does turn away wrath. When we set aside defensiveness and the need to win and instead focus on understanding, when we answer anger with gentleness and kindness, tempers come down.
Responding to something with gentleness does not mean you agree with what they said. ItĀ does mean you agree that are a beloved child of God, just like you.
Let’s not forget that this is listed as one of the Fruits of the Spirit, and it’s also what Jesus teaches in His radical “turn the other cheek/go the extra mile” teaching.
Do not meet anger with anger. Do not meet force with force. Give kindness and gentleness instead. Quite often, it will change the tenor of the conversation.
And you know what? Even if it doesn’t, it will change the tenor of your own heart. And that matters too.
Yes, I’m cheating with this “G” by adding a C-word in front of it. Indulge me. š Because this, also, isĀ huge.Ā
Find the common ground. You have it. I promise. There are no two people on earth without something in common, and if you can find that in a heated conversation, you’re well on your way to making a friend. And I don’t mean interrupt a diatribe with “What’s your favorite color? Maybe we have that in common.” I mean actually look at the things they’re saying and find the common ground. Find something to agree on.
More often than not, we’re allĀ starting from the same core principles. We all want safety and security, we all want dependable and fair laws, we all want good for our children, we all want fair treatment for and from our neighbors. It isn’t theĀ what we disagree on–it’s theĀ how. We disagree on the best way to achieve good things, but that just means you might need to strip away all the “trimmings” and look to the heart of the issue.
“I can absolutely agree that we don’t want rapists and murderers on the street.”
“I think you’re right that federal law enforcement needs to follow the law too.”
“I’m also an advocate for safety for our children.”
And so on.Ā StartĀ there. Acknowledge how they feel and why they feel it. Respect where they are (even if you don’t agree with it). And then explain your own point of view. And if youĀ really want to make it approachable, share it not as the conclusion you’ve come to, but as the place you are through a journey.Ā
“You know, I used to think that too. And then as I dug deeper, I started to ask these questions. [Share the questions that made you look deeper.] It’s tough, you know? Because I still believe in that core ideal. But I struggle with how to reconcile it with these other things. Which is what led me to this position today.”
You know what usually follows? “Yeah, I get that. I ask those questions to.” Or maybe, “Huh, I’ve never thought of it that way. I’m going to have to ponder that.”
Now, here’s the thing–that line of conversation doesn’t work if you’ve never examined our own ideas orĀ come to where you are. If you’re arguing “that’s the way it is” without nuance, chances are pretty good that you’re never going to convince someone…because they clearlyĀ aren’t where you are now, and they can’t justĀ beĀ there. Which means sometimes, you’re just going to have to do that examination there, with them. Ask questions–not bullying ones, not accusatory ones, but genuine ones. “I’ve seriously never considered that before. Can you explain your thoughts to me more? Can we dig a little deeper? The thing that immediately comes to mind is this [state your rebuttal], can you help me reconcile that with your position?”
When we remember our 4 Gs, when we treat our interlocutors with respect and dignity, when we treat them as we want to be treated in the conversation, amazing things happen. We actually learn from each other. We understand the other side better, and hence our own too. We plumb new depths. We build new bridges.
And we make new friends. That right there isn’t nothing. That’s one of the most important “somethings” you can ever expect of a conversation.
Last year around this time, there were things that I found upsetting in modern politics. As I sat in Church in an hour of prayer, I laid it all out before God and asked, āShould I speak?ā And I very clearly felt Him say no. It was not the time. I didnāt understand why, but I obeyed.
I think perhaps now I understand why He asked me to wait. I think it may be because I was at the beginning of what turned out to be a year-long (and ongoing) experiment. See, Iād never been one to read the newsāit was too depressing. ? Instead, Iād rely on my news-rabid husband to keep me informed. But last January, Iād felt the need to break that old habitā¦but I wanted to do it right. I decided that I would read news from a deliberate variety of sources. Especially when a big event caught my attention, I would seek out both the liberal and conservative perspectives on it. My husband does this daily and also reads foreign news, so as we discussed things, he would add in the perspective of international news outlets. (He still spends a lot more time reading the news than I do!) Last year, my opinions were not very well-informed, which means they werenāt all that well formed, either. They were emotional responsesānot as reasoned as I wanted to think they were, and not nuanced.
In this year of deliberate reading, I discovered something. I discovered that it was very easy for me, a lifelong Conservative, to pick out the liberal bias in a piece, and after I acknowledged and then dismissed my own knee-jerk reaction to it, I could read the actual information contained with objectivity. It was more difficult in conservative pieces, because their bias is my own. I had to work to be able to pick that out and examine the facts.
Although, I also discovered another interesting thingāthat as I perceived Conservative politics (from my perspective, I know you may not feel the same way!) deviating more and more from my own long-held beliefs, that bias in Conservative news began to strike me in a new way. I was angry. I was upset. It felt like a slap in the face that made me do something very strangeāit made me want to turn away from it entirely.
That was bizarre. While I have new understanding of many liberal views, there are also key issues where I still very much disagree with the usual linesā¦but this knee-jerk reaction was pushing me toward them. And then I realized why it was.
I felt betrayed. And when you feel betrayed, a frequent emotional reaction is to want to turn completely away from the perceived traitor. This is why couples who go through divorce can so quickly go from love to hate. Once I identified this emotion, I was able to sit back, evaluate my actual, continual core principles, and realize that the appropriate response was not abandonmentā¦but healing.
Thatās the journey Iāve been on in this last year with modern politics.
NowāIāve long had a policy. As a Christian novelist with a growing platform, a core tenet of my interactions with the public has always been ādonāt talk about politics.ā Itās a guaranteed way to alienate half your readershipābecause there are Christians on both sides of the political aisle. But as American politics continue to spiral into snarling shouting matches, I found myself again at a place where I wanted to speak.
This time, it was different. This time, it was because of a few stupid memes. Now, another key tenet of mine is āDonāt argue with people on Facebook,ā a corollary of which is āEspecially donāt argue with memes.ā ? But these particular memes struck me because they were cruelā¦and they were shared by people I know personally. Now, this is nothing new with these particular people (again, people I know in real life, in my hometown). But on this particular Friday night, it brought me to tears. (Granted, Iām super emotional right now after my second cancer diagnosis, LOL. See my post called āGiven to Tears.ā) Not because of the political opinionābut because of the attitude of disgust and bitterness and hatred from these people who I know love Jesus. That brought me to tears. It wasnāt worry, it wasnāt anger. It was sorrow.
And responding from sorrowā¦thatās very different from responding from anger.
I asked again, āLord, is it time to speak?ā And this time, the answer was very different. This time, the answer was yes. That night, I woke up at about 2:15 and, as often happens to me in the middle of the night, my brain clicked on. (This is where most of my books are plotted, LOL. In the dark of the night, when I should be sleeping. Now you know my secret.) I lay there for the next four hours working through what He would have me sayāwhat would glorify God and also lay my heart bare. What would not invite argument, but rather dialogue. I crafted and recrafted the words in my head. I prayed. And as David eventually woke up in the morning (LOL), I told him my thoughts, and the tears came again.
Again, not from anger, not from worry. From sorrow. From grief.
So I got up and I wrote a Facebook post. It was five pages long, LOL. THAT wasnāt going to work, so I had ChatGPT recommend where to cut and tighten, and I ended up with a far more reasonable two pages. In this post, I spoke directly to my MAGA friends (though I didnāt name names). I did something I donāt doāI talked about politics. I shared my own stances and opinions, from the perspective of why I feel betrayed by my party, and more, why I feel betrayed specifically by these peopleāthese people who helped raise me, who are the ones who taught me how to follow Jesus, who taught me what I should look for in politicians. Who, from my point of view, are now not only defending things they once taught me to despise, but who are mocking those who disagree. Am I misunderstanding them? I really hope so. (I had a lot of people who chimed in saying, “Do you consider me MAGA just because I voted for Trump? Because there are a lot of things I have problems with, I just made a decision based on these key things.” My answer to them is, “No, you’re not the ones in particular I was addressing, though I do really appreciate your perspective! I was addressing those who defend everything he does.”)
I didnāt set out to convince anyone of anythingānot my goal at all. I set out to be vulnerable. To express why I feel the way I do, to share how Iām interpreting their actions, and to ask them to weigh in and correct me where Iām wrong, explain the things I just donāt understand, and to help me see their point of view more clearly. I love them. I donāt want to judge them (but I had beenā¦which aināt cool. I know that.). I want to start healing this wound in my own heart, and also healing this rift that is growing within the Church.
What followed were thousands of comments, both from my MAGA friends and from a lot of people who feel the way I do but thought they were alone. People from all sidesāfrom the left, from the right, and from this weird place in the middle of current definitions where I find myselfāwho had given up speaking because they were afraid of being attacked. The comment section, and my private messages, became a place where they could engage honestly and openly and without fear. It was overwhelming, Iāll be honestāI spent that entire Saturday answering comments and messagesāeight long but beautiful hours. When I woke up on Sunday morning, there were about 360 comments, many of which were my own replies, and when I left for church, I had about 50 yet to go through. After church and nursing home ministry and lunch and a nap, I went back to my computer to hit “refresh,” and there were 900 comments, 600 of which I hadn’t read.
I’ll admit it–I panicked, because I hadn’t been there moderating. And yet the newest comments, from total strangers, many of them even from around the world, were to the effect of, “Wow, I didn’t think conversations like this could still happen. This gives me hope.” It gives me hope too. =) The comment section did eventually devolve, and I know of at least two cases where people were hurt and only seeing ugly, bullying comments, and they were baffled by how I was saying it was good…and I get that and regret so deeply that this happened to them! I will share one particular experience about how it resolved soon. And I will also say that I learned how tricky it is for anyone to see a full picture when algorithms are in play! I kept getting notifications like “Jane Doe + 56 others tagged you in a comment.” When I clicked on it, it would show me that first comment, but none others, and short of clicking “all comments” and scrolling for an hour to try to find one in particular, by which time more had come in…I simply couldn’t see them. I imagine it was the same for others, who were alerted whenĀ they were tagged, so if they were targeted with bullying, that would be all they saw. Which wasn’t at all what I intended.
But in general, as people checked out (understandably) it was often with comments to me thanking me for the tenor of the original post and conversation. Even with ugly sneaking in at the end, many people agreed that it was beautiful. It was healing.
And I realized that it isnāt enough. Itās the proof of a concept, but one that needs to continue. Because friends, we canāt continue like this. We canāt continue refusing to hear things we donāt like, dismissing any view not our own, and embracing those knee-jerk, emotional reactions that tell us if someone disagrees, then theyāre not really a Christian. That if someone disagrees, theyāre evil. If someone disagrees, then we should dismiss them entirely. More, we canāt continue growing angrier at each other, letting the wounds fester. That isnāt what God wants for us, and I know we all agree on that!
Ours is a world of nuance. How can it not be? We serve a God who is at once so simple, able to be summed up in a single sentence: God is love. And yet so infinitely complex that our human minds will never grasp His intricacies and mysteries this side of Heaven. We serve a God who is both perfect Justice and perfect Mercy. His creation is just as complex. And fallen humanity? Hoo, boy! Thereās nothing simple about how to untangle the mess our sin has created in this world.
And so, in the next few posts, Iām going to keep speakingāand you can expect me to continue to do so. Not to be politicalāI may discuss current events, and Iām of course coming from my own perspectiveābut to invite dialogue, to dig down not only to the heart of issues but also into our own hearts, and to grow our mutual understandings. Because I will be the first to admit that I do not understand ANYTHING fully. I am keenly aware of how my own opinions shift as I learn more. So if my opinions change, why would I try to convince you of them? I’m just hoping you’ll want to come along on the ride of discovery and learning and deepening our own understanding, with the goal of better seeing the nuance of those complicated issues and also of each other’s hearts.
Iām going to break these into multiple posts (because this one is already long), but Iām going to publish several of them all at once. If youād like to engage, youāre welcome to do so at any time on any of the topics. As I publish them, I’ll be adding links to each topic at the bottom of this cornerstone post.
I hope and pray that whether weāre in the same place or different ones, we can be open and vulnerable like that Facebook conversation was at the startābecause I love you. You, my readers, are my whole purpose. You are the reason I get up every morning and write the stories God has put on my heart. I donāt love you because we agreeāI donāt love because weāre on the same āside.ā I donāt love you because I think youāll echo back to me my own beliefs.
I love you because you are so precious in the sight of God. Most of you know Him and love Him (I know I have some readers who arenāt there yet, too). So most of us are starting from the same placeā¦but that doesnāt mean weāve taken the same journey or are viewing things in the same way now. And thatās not only okay, thatās beautiful. That means we have so much to learn from each other. Itās no coincidence that Jesus invited both Zealots and tax collectors into His inner circle. Two diametrically opposed positions in that worldāboth of whom could bring those opposite politics to the Lordās feet and love Him.
I want us, the Church, to begin healing. And that requires conversation. Not shouting matches, not debates, not trying to win or be right. Learning. Truly learning the other points of view, truly seeking to see othersā hearts.
Youāre going to find other people who are standing exactly where you areāand youāll realize youāre not alone. Youāre going to find people who disagree with youāand who can show you things youād never considered before. Youāre (again) going to find people who disagree with youāand who need to hear what you have to say. Youāre going to be confronted with uncomfortable truths, no matter your opinions. And youāre going to have to wrestle with them. Because denying them doesnāt achieve anything but the hardening of our own hearts.
I hope youāll come along on this journey with me. If youāre not up for it, thatās okay. I get it. Maybe it isnāt your time to speak yet. But if it is, and if you do, I pray youāll join me in the spirit in which Iām opening this dialogue, and I pray youāll be vulnerable and share your thoughts and opinions and stances. I need to hear them. I need to understand where youāre coming from. I still have so, so much to learnāI know that. And since youāre human, I bet you do too. ?
A year ago, I was angry and wanted to hold people accountable. This year, Iām grieving, and I want to heal. Are you ready for that, too? Then please, come along.
In one of my next posts, youāll find my story as I shared it on Facebook. In another, Iām going to pause to remind us all of what makes for constructive dialogue, and Iām also going to equip us with something I sure needāa logical fallacy toolkit. The purpose of that will be to give us the tools and words to help us identify why certain arguments feel āoffā to us, which in turn helps us know how to respond. Iāll be using examples of them straight from my social media feed. And from there, weāre going to start talking about some of the hard topics and hot button issues weāre confronted with every day right now, from immigration to Greenland to abortion.
And Iām doing something else too. Iām opening up a place to talk about these things live. If thereās enough interest, Iāll be hosting Zoom chats with my husband, in the tradition of Benjamin Franklinās Junto club or the Maryland founding fathersā Wednesday Clubāwhere we talk about things that matter from a place of vulnerability, desire to learn, and love and respect for each other. No āwinning,ā no āagreeing to disagreeā (I hate that phrase! LOL). Just earnest, open communication between people who love God and crave that unity in the Church thatās sorely lacking right now.
Iām calling this āThe Common Room.ā Historically speaking, thatās the place in an inn where people would come to gatherāto share a meal, to learn, to talk. Weāre going to be emphasizing what we have in common (our faith, our love of God and of the home here on earth Heās given us, and also of each other), and weāre going to be learning from each other when it comes to differences. So Iāll also be sharing the ārules of engagementā for these meetings. ? I hope youāll come. If youāre interested, please fill out this super-fast form so I (a) know thereās enough interest to warrant it and (b) can send you the Zoom link.
And so, this post will end with this message: if you are liberal, I love you for your concern for your fellow man. If you are conservative, I love you for your adherence to core principles and belief in the sacred. If you are moderate, I love you for trying so hard to strike the balance between the two. If you are confused about it all, I love you for your self-awareness and admission that thereās just too much to take in. No matter where you stand right now, your perspective matters. Your views are not only valid, they are valuable. Come be seen. Come be heard.
Come be healed.
(*A quick note–when this posts, I’ll be in Morgantown for my next chemo infusion, and my website does hold comments from first-time posters for approval, in order to weed out bots. So if you comment but don’t see it pop up immediately, that’s why. I’ll get online as soon as I’m able to approve anything that’s waiting. I just don’t want you to think any delay is intentional or aimed at whatever you might have shared!)
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What follows is the post I made on Facebook on January 17. I want to introduce it here a bit to clarify a few things. First, this was addressed specifically to real-life friends who defend everything Trump does and believe his “rough edges” are in fact good things. I have many friends who voted for Trump as what they perceived as the lesser of two evils, and while I am SO grateful for their perspectives too, if you do not self-identify as MAGA, then chances are good you are not the ones I was specifically speaking to. š Even so, I want to share my own perspective and invite yours, because your matters–whether you were my “target audience” here or not.
Unlike the Facebook post, which got TOTALLY out of hand, I intend to moderate any comments here completely, which means things that show the commenter to be mildly-upset will be let through but I reserve the right to chime in to invite you to see a different perspective (you don’t have to agree with it, but please try to understand it, if you’re engaging), and shouting or name-calling comments will either not be approved to begin with or be deleted as soon as I see them). And if you just don’t want to comment at all, I get. If this comment sections remains a ghost-town, that’s fine. š
I also want to take a moment to note that this was my first (and perhaps last, LOL) viral post on social media. It got about 800K views by the time I’m posting this, with a little under 3K comments (this number includes comments on shares, not just on my post itself on my page), and over 400 shares. Way higher than anything I’d seen before. And while I know it only did that because it was dealing with political things, I am still grateful that my “once in a lifetime” viral post was on something that matters and not a cat video. š (I’m not dissing cat videos. I love them.) I also want to note that I’m blown away by the number of international viewers who reached out privately and/or commented, most of whom had no idea how I ended up in their feed. But I saw people from England, Scotland, Denmark, Australia, Germany, Sweden, and New Zealand…and there were several who mentioned being not-US but whose country of origin I didn’t actually see.
Which I mention solely because they all said that this conversation–not the viewpoints, but the fact that we were having an earnest conversation–was the first thing they’d seen out of the US to give them hope that we’ll survive this current storm. That touched me. And gave me hope too.
One final note–that I’m adding some notes. Footnote style. Just things to provide you with the source to which I’m referring. If I’m bringing them up, it’s because it was part of the conversation I’ve had in years past with people who matter to me on these subjects. I’m not claiming you, particularly, claim them. Rather, I’m claiming that they’re part of what I was told. (I did not include these in the original post for the sake of length.)
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Hey, MAGA friendsādo you have a minute? I need to talk through some things.
The last couple nights, Iāve been lying awake, honestly upset to the point of tears, after seeing some memes and posts shared here (edited to add: these were not worried, anxious thoughts and tears. They were tears of sorrow, and this “upset” led to a burden to put words to it…and when Roseanna the Writer feels a burden to words to something, she inevitably ends up doing it in the middle of the night, LOL)1. And I need to hear your actual thoughts so I avoid making any wrong assumptions. I want to say this clearly up front: I love you. In real life, youāre my family, my friends, my neighbors, my book-club people. You matter to me. Your viewpoints matter to me.
I usually live by ādonāt talk politics, and for the love of all thatās holy, donāt argue on Facebook.ā But I think weāre past the point where that works. I donāt understand some things, and I suspect you donāt fully understand my perspective either. I genuinely believe weād all be better off if we talkedāreally talked. If Facebook isnāt the place, fair enough. Email me. Call me. Letās even get dinner with the goal of having these conversations. Because theyāre important.
I need to be honest: when it comes to our current political situation, I feel betrayed. Many of you are the people who raised me, who taught me how to follow Christ. Youāre my people. (And for context, if you donāt know me in real life, Iām the stereotypical Conservative Christian womanāIām a white, rural Republican from West Virginia. I hold traditional views on marriage and gender. Iāve been married 25 years. I homeschooled. I donāt drink, curse, or do drugs.)2
And I am deeply dismayed.
You taught me in the ā90s not to trust politicians without character. You taught me that a man who lies, mocks, and disgraces his office should not lead.3Ā You taught me to vote my conscienceāwhich is why I didnāt vote for Trump, even back in 2016. Back then, many of you said, āHeās a baby Christian.ā4
That was nearly a decade ago.
True new Christians growāremember that parable about the seed and the soil? You taught me the fruits of the Spirit to watch forālove, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, and self-control.5Ā Please help me understand: do you honestly see those fruits being modeled now? Not just by the president, but by the broader movement? I see crosses worn publicly and prayers posted onlineābut I also see open contempt, hatred, mockery, aggression, pride, and a startling lack of self-control.
Donāt tell me youāre a Christian with your T-shirts or jewelry. Show me youāre a Christian by your love.
Which brings me to what started all of this: how weāre talking about immigrants.
One of you shared a meme saying you voted for Trump to ātake out the trash.ā Pleaseāhelp me understand. Are we talking about people? Because the kind of things we throw away as trash are rotten, disgusting, beyond worth. And even if you mean āunnecessary clutter,ā I donāt believe you would ever look a person in the eye and tell them theyāre unnecessary.
Yet weāre saying it about an entire group.
Iāve heard it said: āIf theyāre here legally, theyāre fine. If not, theyāre criminals and theyāve got to go.ā But hereās the problemāthe government keeps changing what ālegalā means. People who entered the country lawfully, under one administrationās rules, have had their status revoked by anotherās executive order. Refugees. Families. People still in active legal processes with legal statuses.6
Are they suddenly ātrashā?
I know we all agree violent criminals shouldnāt be on the streets. Thatās not the debate. The issue is the use of blanket terms. Itās shifting laws. Itās a system that punishes people who followed the rulesāand then calling concern about that āfake newsā and āthe liberal agenda.ā I’m not liberal by any stretch of the imaginationāand please don’t even DARE suggest I don’t know how to read and research. If you know me even a little, you know them be fightin’ words to a historical novelist. ?
And hereās the thing: I donāt think we actually disagree on whether innocent people being brutalized is wrong. I think we agree it would be horrificāif itās true. The question is whether weāre willing to believe uncomfortable truths, or whether we drown them out because they donāt fit our narrative. History gives us sobering examples of what happens when Christians choose the latter.
Iāll offer this about myself, since Iām asking for honesty from you. Last year, when Roe was overturned, I went looking for data to prove my side right. Instead, I found evidence that strict abortion laws increase abortions. I didnāt like itābut I had to reckon with it. I didnāt change my belief that life is sacred. I changed my conclusion about the system I thought would protect it.7
Thatās what Iām asking for hereānot a change of core values, but a willingness to examine whether the systems we support are actually producing the good we say we want.
I am not here to pick a fight. Conflict literally makes me feel sick to my stomach, and Iāve got enough of that dealing with chemo. ? Iām here because I believe something is broken in the unity of the Church, and I donāt think silence fixes it.
I believe we still share core principles. I believe our disagreements are about how to live them out. And I believe we owe it to each otherāas Christians, as friends, as familyāto talk honestly, humbly, and without name-calling or fear.
Iāve laid my heart on the table. Please tell me where Iāve misunderstood you. Please correct me where Iām wrong. Letās start a real conversationāand see where we can go from here.
1 See my post āA Time to Speakā (https://www.roseannamwhite.com/2026/01/a-time-to-speak.html)
2 To be totally accurate, this is my āhistoricalā place, where Iām coming from, what informs and shapes my opinions. Because of what I go on to explain, Iāve undergone a lot of change. And am really just trying to disentangle my identity from ANY identity politics. Again, see the same post mentioned above.
3 I was born in 1982, so the āeraā I best remember from my childhood is the Clinton era. In my particular circles, I remember many conversations about how a president should not even let himself be impeached but should rather resign if it comes down to that, to keep from disrespecting the office of President. That it didnāt matter what Clinton did for the economy, because he was not a man of character. As I approached my eighteenth year (in 2000, if you donāt feel like doing the math) when I would register to vote, I had been 100% taught to vote my conscience based not just on political issues but on the politicians. Not because any political candidate would ever be perfect (we all know thatās impossible), but because someday I will have to stand before God and answer for what my vote supported and what they did as public servants. Yeah, itās a lot of pressure, LOL.
4 āJames Dobson Says Paula White Led Donald Trump to Jesus Christā (https://www.christianpost.com/news/james-dobson-says-paula-white-led-donald-trump-to-jesus-christ.html) This article was quoted as the reason many people I know in real life felt āpermissionā to vote for Trump.
5 In Matthew 7:16-20, Jesus tells us we will know believers by the fruit they produce. In Galatians 5:22-23, Paul lists that fruit.
6 Sharing statements from a Christian ministry devoted to refugees that a trusted friend has volunteered with in Minneapolis, Arrive Ministries. This is their Jan 20, 2026 post.
7 I talk a bit more in-depth about this in my post āGrappling.ā https://www.roseannamwhite.com/2025/05/grappling.html
With permission from my new friend Caroline, I want to tell you a story that came out of my “Hey, MAGA friends, do you have a minute?” post that I shared here on my blog as “Why I Feel Betrayed.” By Sunday, I had completely lost control of the comment section, but some of the newest comments were saying how impressed they were with the level of civility and open dialogue, so I assured myself it was still okay. I went about my life, including a trip to the hospital to talk about my next surgery, and how it needs to wait until my next scans to make sure I’m still clear of the cancer I’m being treated for (I offer this as explanation for my own raw emotional state).
As we were leaving the hospital, I pulled up my phone and did something I honestly rarely do on my phone anymore–I opened my Messenger app. And I saw a message waiting in the “pending” file, the ones from people not already on my friends list. There had been a lot of these that weekend, mostly from international people who had no idea how I popped up in their feed and didn’t feel they had a right to weigh in on a post directed to a particular group of people, but who wanted to thank me for opening a non-shouting conversation, and that from their point of view, it was the first hope they’d had in a long time that America might get through this.
Honestly, I was expecting more of the same. But instead, I opened up this message from Caroline, and I saw this (again, shared with her permission, using only her first name):
CarolineRoseanna, I am so sorry I responded to your question on Facebook. But even more I am so disappointed. Your post incited online bullying and I am saddened that I took your bait and fell for it. I have deleted my reply to your post and blocked those that I needed to. You crossed a lineā¦in your own words you said never discuss politics on Facebook and for some reason you decided it was ok. You know that because of your profession, you have a large audience and so I wonder what did you expect you were going to accomplish? Anyway, I wish you the best.
Now, let me tell you a bit about me. I don’t mind when people disagree with my ideas–I know how often I shift and refine them and come to new understandings of complex things, so why in the world should anyone else agree with what I myself might not in the future? But I feel it like an arrow to the heart when someone questions my motives, so this cut. It didn’t make me angry, it HURT. Because someone was hurt, and they perceived it as my fault, and what if it WAS my fault?
As I began frantically composing a response ON MY PHONE (which I hate to do, LOL. Give me a computer keyboard any day!) my husband asked, “What’s wrong?” Because he knows me, LOL. So I told him and, seeking to comfort me, he said, “Don’t worry about it, honey. It’s probably just a troll.”
I didn’t think it was. But even if it had been, I’d rather respond kindly to a troll or a bot than risk letting a real grieving heart go unanswered. So I replied:
Roseanna
Oh Caroline, I am so sorry you were bullied! Did I say something that hurt you or was it others? (I’m trying to keep track but have been overwhelmed). If it was me who said something that hurt you, I am truly sorry. I am trying to see each point of view, understand it, offer my own perspective, but always affirm that your perspective is valid and valuable. If others in the content section attacked, then I’m so sorry that wasn’t checked. There are still hundreds of comments I haven’t seen yet, and I’ve been praying they’ve remained respectful.
Caroline replied to let me know that it wasn’t me, it was others. I apologized again and asked her if she would feel comfortable sharing her thoughts there privately with me–because I’ve found that the ones who garner attack are the ones I really need to understand. She was gracious enough to do so…and I admit, I was baffled as to why anyone had bullied her for them. Did we agree on everything? No. But we’d very clearly started from the same place, and she represented one of the more moderate views I’d seen that weekend.
Long story short, we ended up talking back and forth about how hard it is to know what “good” to prioritize, what “bad” to prioritize against, when they are in conflict. How we’re all just muddling our way through a very imperfect system.
I thanked her for trusting me with her view after she’d been hurt in my comment section. She thanked me for being willing to listen and apologize. We fell silent for a while with peace between us.
And then Caroline truly proved her Christ-seeking heart when she reached out again to apologize for blaming me for what others had said, for assuming bad motives on my part. She asked my forgiveness. And I gave it in a heartbeat, acknowledging that sure, she made an assumption about me–but that the moment she reached out to me with it instead of letting it fester, she’d done exactly the thing Jesus instructs us to do, and I was so grateful. I apologized again that she was hurt on my watch.
And we ended that day both calling it such a blessing. We’ve chatted each day since. We now count each other a new friend and are getting each other’s takes on unrelated things.
Do we still have those points of disagreement? Absolutely! And that’s OKAY. We can still be friends. We can still talk…and now we know we can talk about the hard things, and we can help each other understand them better.
This is what communication is supposed to do, friends. Not create click-bait or fan the flames of outrage. We can disagree with something without calling people names.
I’m so grateful Caroline reached out. I’m so grateful she forgave me and asked my forgiveness in turn. I’m so grateful that we gained a friend that day instead of falling into resentment over disagreements.
And I pray we can all do more of this. Less shouting, more talking. That we can deliberately seek reconciliation instead of outrage. That we can prioritize loving our neighbor over winning an argument. Caroline gives me hope that we can.
A few years ago, when my son was beginning high school and we were debating what electives he should take, I did something dangerous.
I bought a Logic curriculum for him. I knew that Rowyn already valued logical arguments–I hear him regularly chatting on Discord with his gamer friends, so I knew he took perhaps too much joy in dismantling their statements when they didn’t satisfy his logical mind, LOL. So I figured, let’s make sure he’s doing it right.
Feeding the beast? Well, maybe. š But as the textbook arrived and I was flipping through it, I realized that my own education in spotting logical fallacies is sorely lacking. My husband is better at it, but me? Not so much. I had no idea what the names were for those things that frustrated me in conversation, or why sometimes something felt “off” in a response, or manipulative, but I didn’t know why.
And of course, as I learned a bit more about these fallacies, I also learned where I tend to fall into them as well. Sigh. Don’t you just hate it when you set out to learn why others are wrong and instead learn whereĀ you are? šĀ
Given how many of these I see in my own social media feed every single day, I figure either I’m not the only one who doesn’t just “get” these things intuitively…or people are doing it deliberately. Because I’m always a “give them the benefit of the doubt” kind of person, I’m assuming the first. And so…maybe you could benefit from this list too. And I know I need it!
Please note that I am using examples from BOTH sides of the political aisle; sometimes examples I’ve seen from both are provided for the same Fallacy; sometimes I alternate and will use a Conservative statement in one and the a Liberal statement in the next. Sometimes just general examples that easily apply to both. Cuz we all do these, friends!)
(This list is based on one from Grammarly, with a couple extra thrown in. They all have my take on them and, where it didn’t requireĀ too much time spent digging on my part, examples from my own social media feed.)
Tell: Attacking the person instead of the argument.
Example: āYouāre wrong because youāre just a [label],ā instead of addressing the actual claim.
Why itās wrong: The truth of a position doesnāt depend on who says it.
Tell: Distracting from the argument by bringing up something irrelevant to the current discussion.
Example: āI think parents should have more say about school curriculumā is answered with “If Conservatives really cared about kids, they’d want to talk about gun violence in schools.”
Why itās wrong: It sidetracks the discussion with a separate topic instead of engaging the actual issue being discussed.
Tell: Misrepresenting someoneās argument to make it easier to attack.
Example: “Schools should admit systemic racism as part of history” is met with “You want to teach kids to hate America.”
Why itās wrong: It argues against something they didnāt actually say. Thing to remember: if you have to exaggerate someone’s argument in order to defeat it, then you haven’t defeated it.
Tell: Using a word in different ways to mislead.
Example: “Freedom” is a common one where meanings get misinterpreted in the conversation. Examples from both sides: “Freedom means people should be free to live without discrimination” is met with “Freedom doesn’t meant freedom from consequences.” Or “This government mandate on gun control overreaches individual freedom” is met with “I think our kids should have freedom to live safely.”
Why itās wrong: The word shifts in meaning mid-argument.
Tell: Predicting extreme outcomes without evidence.
Example: āIf we donāt deport everyone, next thing you know borders wonāt existā or “If we allow this speaker on our campus, the next stop is fascism.”
Why itās wrong: It assumes progression without causal proof.
Tell: Jumping to a broad conclusion from too little evidence.
Example: āThere are three examples of this people group committing crimes, therefore they’re all criminals.ā
Why itās wrong: Too small a sample to justify the conclusion.
Tell: Claiming something is true just because an authority said it.
Example: āA famous person said it ā so it must be true.ā
Why itās wrong: Authorities can be wrong or irrelevant.
Tell: Presenting only two options when more exist.
Example: āEither we deport everyone or let rapists stayā or “If we don’t ban guns our kids will be gunned down in schools.”
Why itās wrong: It ignores the real range of possibilities.
Tell: Saying something is true or right because āeveryone believes it.ā
Example: āEveryone thinks X, so X must be true.ā
Why itās wrong: Popularity ā truth.
Tell: Claiming something is true because it hasnāt been proven false (or vice versa).
Example: āThis regulation won’t help the economyā is met with “You don’t know it won’t, so let’s pass it.”
Why itās wrong: Lack of evidence isnāt proof.
Tell: Using the conclusion as the premise ā no real support.
Example: āHe was justified because he had to do it,ā without independent evidence.
Why itās wrong: It goes in a loop instead of reasoning.
Tell: Staying committed just because youāve invested time/effort.
Example: āIāve already argued this position for years; changing now would be admitting defeat.ā
Why itās wrong: Past investment doesnāt justify continuing.
Tell: Using emotional sympathy instead of logic.
Example: āYou must agree because itās heartbreaking.ā
Why itās wrong: Pathos can highlight stakes but not prove a point.
Tell: Assuming causation just because of correlation or timing.
Example: āWhen X happened, Y happened, so X must have caused Y.ā
Why itās wrong: Correlation ā causation.
Tell: Dismissing someoneās argument by calling out hypocrisy.
Example: āYou criticize this policy but your side did the same.ā
Why itās wrong: Hypocrisy doesnāt make the original argument incorrect.
Tell: Using a preemptive move that makes further discussion socially unacceptable
Example: āIf you agree with that, you’re not a Christian.ā
Why itās wrong: It admits no nuance in an issue and assumes that there is only one issue that defines “good.” It stops discussion rather than engaging with it.
I’ve had several people ask, either privately or in a comment on my posts lately, a very kind version of “What are you thinking, crazy lady? You’ve got enough going on, fighting cancer. Why are you deciding to talk politics now??”
And they have a point, LOL. (And no one put it that way, I’m being tongue-and-cheek and funny…)
But also…this, too, is important, and I’d like to explain.
I already talked about the year-long journey I’ve been on, and how a year ago, I was just angry and wanted to hold people accountable. How now, I want to understand and heal. Not to talkĀ politics, but to talk about real issues, hard topics thatĀ matter. In that “A Time to Speak” post, there was one thing I didn’t go into on this journey.
October 2025.
If you’ve been following me for long, then you know that in 2024, I battled breast cancer. The fight took me into 2025, when I completed radiation treatments in January and then my “blocker” treatments in May. In July, I had my final reconstruction surgery after my bilateral mastectomy. I thought I was done. I thought I’d won.
Then came October, when a brain MRI for an unrelated pituitary issue revealed a tumor in my brain, in the right cerebellum. I know I’ve talked both here and on social media about how hard it hit, and my journey through that. But there are some things I didn’t get into, largely because they were too painful for my family.
I’m going to talk about them now because they are a big part of this.
In those two weeks between the discovery of the tumor and when we had definitive test results, my doctors were sure–SURE–I was in Stage 4 cancer. They were sure it was in my lymph nodes and all through my body. They were sure that palliative care was going to be my fate. They assured me they could keep the cancer in check and still give me years (probably), but let me try to put words to what was going on in my heart and mind.
In those two weeks, I was staring death in the face. Maybe not an immediate death–but that didn’t make it better. I was asking myself, “What if I only have two years left? Or five? Or even ten? What if I don’t get to see my kids get married? What if I spend those years sick and miserable? What if I can’t write the books God’s laid on my heart? What if this is the thing that kills me, and it happens soon?”
Even thinking these questions now makes me cry, guys. Because it’s no less present, just because the scans are clear. It’s no less a real question for me. And it comes with more questions too.
“What really matters?”
During those two weeks, I’ll be honest. I couldn’t read the news. I just…couldn’t. And it wasn’t because I didn’t care about the events or thinkĀ they mattered. It was because I couldn’t handle the hatred I saw. Every time I glimpsed something, I just wanted to cry, “Don’t you understand? Don’t you understand that you are wasting time on hatred that could be spent on love? On tearing down instead of building up? Why? Why are you spending your precious minutes and hours and days and weeks and months on this? Don’t you see what a tragic waste that is?”
Because when you realize how finite your life is…you are keenly aware of how you’re spending it.
I’ve always given a lot to my legacy, to what I want to be remembered for. When I talk to authors about time management and marketing, that is in fact one of the things I invite them to consider as one of the guiding factors to how they prioritize their time and what governs their outreach.
I want to be remembered as someone who loves, not someone who hates.
I want to be remembered as someone who builds, not someone who tears down.
I want to be remembered as someone who listens, not someone who shouts.
I want to be remembered as someone who uses stories to speak Christ to hurting hearts, not to profit.
I want to be remembered as someone who focuses on others, not just herself.
And as I faced the very real possibility of a short life before me, I realized something else. It’s not enough to just not do the negatives. I have toĀ actively doĀ the positives. Because love isn’t the absence of hate–it’s something more than that, something that requires me to do, to act, to live it out. Similarly, building isn’t just the lack of tearing down. Listening isn’t just the lack of shouting. Not being greedy doesn’t mean working for Christ. And not focusing solely on me doesn’t mean I’m focusing on you.
It isn’t enough toĀ not do. We have toĀ do as well.
As someone who haaaaaaaates conflict (I literally feel sick to my stomach whenever conflict arises, and sometimes migraines even follow), it’s easy for me to just keep my head down. Simpler.Ā
But this is onlyĀ peacekeeping. And Jesus didn’t say the “peacekeepers” were blessed. He said the peacemakers were.Ā
Making is also an action. This is something I’ve written about before, in a post called “Peace: Keeping or Making?” in which I observe the following:
Weāre called to CREATE that soul-deep, āall is wellā peace. Weāre called to create it with love, with faith, with sacrifice, and with hope. Not with lies, compromises, insults, and division.
The peace of Christ is when you would rather die than deny Himāand rather be killed than kill.
The peace of Christ is when you help those who hurt you.
The peace of Christ is when you love the unlovable.
The peace of Christ is when you welcome the outcast, not cast out the one who has offended you.
The peace of Christ is when you greet an insult with a compliment.
The peace of Christ is when you seek to understand rather than to be understood.
The peace of Christ is when you answer a demand with a gift.And do you know what happens when we do that? Jesus tells us, right there in the Sermon on the Mount.
We are called sons of God.
Heirs of the Kingdom of God.
Brothers and sisters of Christ.
We are given authority in Heaven and on Earth.
We are made like Him.Peace, my friends, is something not just to seek, not just to preserve, but to make. Itās an active practice. And it doesnāt rely on pleasing peopleāit relies 100% on pleasing God by our interactions with them. On remembering that He loves them every bit as much as He loves us. And on treating them like they, too, are a son or daughter of God.
That ought to change everything.
So why am I tackling this now, in a year when I’m getting more chemo infusions (I really want to call these “blocker” treatments too, but the fact is that my team calls them chemo. NotĀ full chemo. But they’re chemo.)? In a year when I’ve been promised I’ll be exhausted? In a year when I already have too much on my plate, given that?
Because this is the time I have. This is the time God stirred my heart to speak. This is the time the world is hurting for these conversations so, so much. I don’t know what will happen tomorrow. I don’t know where the world will be in a year, when I’m (hopefully and prayerfully) better again. I don’t know if I have another day or another century left on this earth (how’s that last part for optimism?).
But I have now. And so now is the time I will use for the most important things.
The stories He gives me. The people He gives me. The opportunities He gives me.
I will obey, and I will trust Him to provide where I lack. Maybe nothing will come of it. Maybe it’ll take off and I’ll have to bow out. Maybe it’ll just be me talking into what feels like empty space.
Or maybe it will take a cancer patient doing the work to convict other people to do it too.Ā I don’t know.Ā
I just know that I don’t want to be remembered as someone who was silent when God asked her to speak. I don’t want my legacy to be burying my head, just like I don’t want it to be shouting at people. I want it to be modeling a better way. Showing my children that we can still engage with people, whether we agree with them or not. We can still love. And we can also exhort–from that place of love. We can seek to learn and pray that others will continue to do the same.
We can do better. But it starts with each of us. And when I stand before God–whether that’s soon or not–I want to be able to say, “I obeyed. I loved. I built. I served.”
Why now? Because I am so keenly aware that we’re never guaranteed “later.” And I don’t want to waste whatever time I have giving anything less than my whole heart to the world.